[tahoe-dev] [tahoe-lafs] #302: stop permuting peerlist, use SI as offset into ring instead?
tahoe-lafs
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Mon Nov 2 00:39:34 PST 2009
#302: stop permuting peerlist, use SI as offset into ring instead?
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Reporter: warner | Owner:
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone: undecided
Component: code-peerselection | Version: 0.7.0
Keywords: repair newcaps newurls | Launchpad_bug:
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Comment(by warner):
Zooko suggested I add a note about the following idea which came up in
tahoe-dev:
Suppose an attacker gets to kill N servers of their choosing, and want to
cause as much damage as possible. And suppose that there were far more
than N servers in the grid, and we're using 1-of-N encoding. Now, if we're
using the permuted-list algorithm, they could pick one file to completely
kill (choose an arbitrary file, locate its servers, kill them all; boom,
the file is dead). But killing two files is awfully hard: you'd have to be
lucky and find two files that happen to permute to the same first N
servers. I think the chance of killing a second file is like 1 over (M
choose N), where M is the size of the grid: i.e., the number of
permutations is huge.
And of course killing a third file is that probability squared, etc.
Whereas if you aren't using the permuted-list algorithm, and shares are
placed on consecutive servers starting at the SI, the attacker can do a
lot more damage. They just take out any N consecutive servers. They'll
completely kill 1/M of the files on the grid (since there are only M total
permutations in use, one for each server). And they'll kill all-but-one of
the shares for another 2/M files (the two immediate neighbors), and all-
but-two of another 2/M files, etc, in a sort of triangularly-shaped
distribution.
So I still think that permuted-list provides better properties.
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